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He's the man
who shuffles pop culture references in cardboard animation like
Tony La Russa shuffles a 15-man pitching staff and somewhere between
killing Kenny, satirizing Dubya and probably wondering if John Stamos
has anybody else in his family to animate, Matt Stone took time
out to take on Page 2's 10 Burning Questions.
Half of the creative team behind "South Park," Stone (along
with tag-team partner Trey Parker), has, in the first five seasons,
brought America the Sexual Harassment Panda, the "handi-capable"
Timmy, Big Gay Al and lots of other characters Disney probably won't
let us publish. The duo also starred in the cult flick, "Cannibal,
The Musical" as well as David Zucker's summer 1998 release,
"Baseketball."
"South
Park," which began its sixth season earlier this month, airs
at 10 p.m. Wednesdays on Comedy Central.
Page 2's cardboard
pop culture guru Ray Holloman caught up with the show's co-creator.
Read on -- it's the closest you'll ever get to meeting Tina Yothers.
Of course we
all know who the real winner is -- it's Wendy, with her Chewbacca
costume.
1.
It's the humble opinion of Page 2 that Eric Cartman is one of the
great characters in the history of American television. With all
due respect to your authoritaii as his co-creator, where do you
think he ranks among the great American characters and what's it
like having created something that is so much a part of the pop
culture fabric?
Matt Stone:
It's a total honor to have Cartman uttered in the same sentence
with guys like Archie Bunker and Homer Simpson. I don't think we
really think of "South Park" in those terms, but if people
think so then it's an honor.
Do people
feel the need to do a Cartman impersonation when they come up to
you or Trey Parker (the voice of Cartman)?
Stone: They
do. It's really odd. First of all, people mix us up all the time,
people call me Trey more than they call me Matt and they call Trey
Matt more than they do Trey. People always mix us up. If they'd
just do a 50-50 shot, they'd have better odds than now ... but yeah,
people definitely do do the Cartman voice or something from "South
Park," which is cool, but it's like "Why would we want
to hear that?" I don't know why people do that. It's really
the last thing in the world we want to hear. People come up and
do one line from an episode or they do a voice and I'm like, "I
remember, I kinda work on the show." I dunno if they think
I'm gonna go, hey you're awesome?
Whose got
the worst Cartman impersonation?
Stone: I'm sure
Trey has heard some bad ones ... and it's not so much that the vocal
part needs to be tweaked most of the time, it's just like really
bad acting. There have been a couple of people who do pretty good
Cartman voices ... they tend to be fat girls with the right vocal
timber. So there's a good chance if you hear a good impersonation,
it might be a fat girl. Which I'm sure is great consolation to fat
girls.
2.
You and Trey starred in David Zucker's flick "Baseketball."
Do you know the genesis of the sport baseketball was?
Stone:
I don't know exactly how it came about. It seems like the Zucker
brothers invented it years and years ago. They actually used to
play it at their house every Saturday. Then they tried to do a TV
pilot with the concept but that failed, then of course they did
a movie and we destroyed it.
What do you
think about its actual (relative) popularity across the country?
Stone:
Ya know, I got real stuff to do. I play real sports like basketball.
I've got no interest in that game whatsoever, it's not even a sport.
It's like chucking rocks at a tree. It sucks as a sport.
"Baseketball"
has a very simple, glib interpretation of sports as a pure enterprise
corrupted by free agency, money, etc., etc., etc. Was that the point
of the Zucker's script and do you have that sort of attitude toward
sports?
Stone: That's
sort of the jumping off point for the film, but it's meant more
to have fun and the comment on sports is more of a basis than a
statement. And yeah, it's not a courageous interesting position,
that sports are ruined by a lack of continuity but the film is just
there to have fun of it more than create some moral.
But yeah, it
does suck now, some of the stuff that's going on, when you turn
on the TV and Avery Johnson and LaFrentz are playing for the Nuggets
one minute ... and now you've got Juwan Howard and Tim Hardaway
... stuff like that. It sucks. It is true that it's just hard to
care about a team, when you get a new team every ... it's even more
than every year, it's like twice a season, once every three months.
The "Nuggets right now" have no relationship to the "Nuggets
at the start of the season" and that lack of continuity hurts
the game.
3.
What kind of bet did Trey lose in the film so that you got to make
out with both Jenny McCarthy and Victoria Silvstedt?
Stone:
I don't know what happened with that. I will say though, that if
you watch the kiss with Jenny, it's pretty quick and hard. I think
she got a busted lip from that. And Victoria Silvstedt is actually
gross. She's just disgusting. People need to know about airbrushing,
man. You're like, 'Wow you are not hot at all'. Maybe it was me
that lost the bet.
Better kisser,
Trey or Jenny?
Stone:
Hmm ... I'm gonna have to say Trey on that one. Although I hope
I never ever have to kiss him again.
Was that
kiss already in the script when you two decided to do the film,
and if so, did you get hazard pay?
Stone: That
was already in there, believe it or not. It was to make fun of all
the other stuff. There were too many stupid (breast) jokes; we had
to take the steam out of all of that. It was a screw you to everybody
who thought it was just (breast) jokes and fart jokes.
Did Yasmine
Bleeth walk around the set in a bathing suit, ya know, bouncing?
Stone: Like
"Baywatch"? No, it didn't happen. I only saw her like
twice. She stayed in trailer with dumb boyfriend Richard Grieco
all the time.
Who was cool
to work with of all the various athletes and sports personalities
who were in the film, such as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Dale Earnhardt,
Bob Costas?
Stone: The
only one we really got to meet was Kareem. Everybody else was just
second-unit stuff. Kareem lived up to his legend of being pretty
cold. Just didn't want to hang out that much. He's not real friendly
guy. He wasn't mean or anything, but he couldn't care less about
us. He is f---ing tall though.
4.
Do you and Missouri hoops star Wesley Stokes have the same barber?
Stone:
I don't have a barber, that's the secret. I just let it go long
and then shave it. Barbers are for women.
Yeah, and
those of us who can't get women by virtue of having a TV show.
Stone: Yeah,
well, my hair didn't work before and it doesn't work now. And I
don't have a TV show, I have a stinking cartoon show. Only like
15- and 16-year-old boys want to hang out with me and Trey. They're
the only ones that come up to us, and they're nasty. Even if we
were into boys they wouldn't be cute enough to go out with.
What about
Trey and Christopher Lloyd? He's got a little bit of the Reverend
Jim Ignatowski going on with the hair.
Yeah, I think
he was going through his Jim phase. I'm just thinking maybe it was
the drugs.
5.
Do you ever hear from the various celebrities you make fun
of in "South Park," such as Patrick Duffy, Kenny G, Brian
Boitano? How do they handle it?
Stone:
Not really and the few that I've met have been pretty cool with
it. I did once meet this girl when I was out with guys and they're
like here's Tina. And I say hi and start talking to her and everybody
starts laughing. Turns out it was Tina Yothers and they're like
this is Tina Yothers, you made fun of her. She thought it was great
though. She's fronting a band (Jaded) she uses the soundbite to
kick off her shows. She wasn't picking costumes, that's why I didn't
recognize her.
Up yours,
Tina Yothers!
Seriously,
though I interviewed Kristi Yamaguchi a few weeks ago and she said
that Brian Boitano uses the "What Would Brian Boitano Do?"
song from "South Park: Bigger Longer and Uncut" in one
of his shows and that he had skaters dress like the "South
Park" boys. Were you aware of that?
Stone:
No, I didn't know about that, I think that's absolutely cool. See,
people are pretty cool about it. Nothing's personal.
6.
Season six of "South Park" premiered March 6 still without
Kenny? The guy had career resiliency that Michael Jordan would envy.
Is he really dead this time?
Stone: Yep,
Kenny's dead. He might come back though, there might be something
for Kenny in the future. It's funny that people care so much for
Kenny, he's not even a character, he's like this orange blob that
just moves around. People projected a lot of love on him.
So is Butters
taking his place as the fourth member or are we just going to see
a "South Park" trio with Kenny, Kyle and Cartman?
Stone:
Butters wants to be the fourth guy, but the other guys all liked
Kenny better and they kinda wish Kenny was back. So we'll see what
happens.
You did the
voice of Kenny. Do you always have a script to follow for his stifled
words or do you just mumble incoherent stuff?
Stone: There's
always something there, but normally I just sorta make it up on
the spot.
7.
The NCAA basketball tournament is coming up and we're wondering
if there's any chance maybe Rick Majerus is a closet Cartman inspiration.
Could Cartman take Rick?
Stone: I
don't think so. Cartman's not a tough guy, he's a complete wuss,
I think Majerus would beat the crap out of him.
8.
You're a big NBA fan, being from Colorado and living in L.A. who
do you root for?
Stone: The
Nuggets, but they suck ... and now that I live here, it's kinda
cliché to be a Lakers fan, but I pull for them. Sacramento
is fun to watch. New Jersey is fun, too, at least this year. I'm
from Denver, but you just don't wanna support that team. They don't
give you any reason to cheer for them putting out an awful team
year after year.
Dude, you're
talking to a Hornets fan. Preacher, choir, choir, preacher.
Stone: Yeah,
it's teams like that, like the Clippers, the Hornets who had guys
like Eddie Jones and Alonzo Mourning and then trade them so they
suck. It'd be different if they were putting out a bunch of young
players trying and losing, but by just fielding cheap teams and
losing, there's just no point in rooting for them.
9.
Who do you guys look up to creatively?
Stone: There
isn't a whole lot of good stuff going on now. "Mr. Show"
on HBO was great and now they're doing a movie. There was "Space
Ghost, Coast to Coast," on Cartoon Network, which was great.
I just don't watch a lot of prime time stuff and things like that.
I primarily watch CNN, the Discovery Channel, ESPN, and the DirecTV
hockey and basketball package. I like Comic View on BET, it's got
flava, f-l-a-v-a.
Oh trust
us, in Bristol, Conn., we know all about flava, spelled with an
A. It's Tony Danza funky.
Stone:
Right. Flava.
10.
If you could have one superpower -- the ability to fly, the
ability to be invisible or the strength of 100 men -- which would
you choose and why?
Stone: The
ability to fly, especially if I could fly private. I just want to
fly a jet, not even fly. Being able to fly -- I mean, flying like
superman -- that sucks. I want to be able to pilot an airplane.
And since already have the strength of 100 men, all I'd need then
is invisibility.
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